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  1. Millard Fullbore March 14th, 2007 9:33 pm

    “Stephen Colbert’s volley of (accurate) insults delivered to Bush’s face, in the guise of giving the keynote address at the Washington press corps’ annual dinner. He was just aggressively ignored by the mainstream media. Perhaps Katrina turned the tide: the indifference, incompetence, and obliviousness of the federal government was so gross that its pedestal melted.”

    Um…this doesn’t quite compute — Katrina came first, in August ‘05; Colbert’s performance came in ‘06, if I remember correctly.

  2. Ray Kondrasuk March 14th, 2007 9:34 pm

    I sigh in chorus with Rebecca. Did we say enough… often enough, soon enough, loudly enough? Among my righteous Cheney-cheering friends and relatives, it seems that the more I seek to discuss our plight, the wider their avoidance; the more detailed my documentation, the deeper their silence.

    Scott Ritter noted that the steadily growing opposition to the Iraq debacle is not necessarily from those who are anti-war, but rather from those who are anti-LOSING-war.

  3. Nietzsche March 14th, 2007 11:23 pm

    The Bush administration has so polarized the citizenry that I find myself either preaching to the choir or inciting violence when I try to point the finger at the neocons. I believe our body politic is stampeding toward an abyss of fascism and feel like all I can do is watch.

  4. NotOneMore.US March 14th, 2007 11:57 pm

    There is a worse enemy, and that is a Clinton type candidate who will again avoid the truth that this war was illegal and contrary to basic freedoms and human rights.

    Kerry would have won the election if he said these words, “The war is wrong and based on lies.” And even if he wouldn’t have won, It would feel good that he had done all that he could. And isn’t that what we ask of anybody, to try their best?

    I don’t look for the Democratic party to provide an answer anymore.

    The critical mass necessary for change has not yet gathered together, and whether it will is doubtful, but not out of the question. Nothing is easy, but standing up for justice is a start, and employing various methods (letter writing, talking to people, not accepting the hype) is a start.

    Will Work for Peace

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    http://www.NotOneMore.US

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  6. gaartsen March 15th, 2007 4:06 am

    Go Rebecca! Tell ‘em (us) like it is.

    Do you also remember the fierce opposition of Congressman Dennis Kucinich, with his powerful and moving “Prayer for America” and who later ran for for Democratic presidential nominee with the slogan “Fear Ends. Hope Begins.”?

    Every time has its own heroes, even if they remain largely unsung. Indeed JohnR, if only people would have listened to their hearts and from their fundamental humanity had voted against fear, greed and aggression.

    And even though it seems the LoonyGoon complacency (which effectively worked out as compliance) won in the short run, we only need to remember the historical changes in Eastern Europe just 17 years ago, in South Africa around the same time, and the present wave towards people power in South America to see that the times — if not the Gods — are in support of the people.

    In the current battle between neo-conservative greed and our common humanity, everyone who has eyes to see needs to stand up and speak out in favour of co-operation and sharing as the only way forward, as the only way to secure justice and freedom, and a peaceful future for ALL — not just for those who can afford to hide inside their gated mansions.

  7. gaartsen March 15th, 2007 4:09 am

    Go Rebecca! Tell ‘em (us) like it is.

    Do you also remember the fierce opposition of Congressman Dennis Kucinich, with his powerful and moving “Prayer for America” and who later ran for for Democratic presidential nominee with the slogan “Fear Ends. Hope Begins.”?

    Every time has its own heroes, even if they remain largely unsung. If only people would have listened to their hearts and from their fundamental humanity had voted against fear, greed and aggression.

    And even though it seems complacency (which effectively worked out as compliance) won in the short run, we only need to remember the historical changes in Eastern Europe just 17 years ago, in South Africa around the same time, and the present wave towards people power in South America to see that the times — if not the Gods — are in support of the people.

    In the current battle between neo-conservative greed and our common humanity, everyone who has eyes to see needs to stand up and speak out in favour of co-operation and sharing as the only way forward, as the only way to secure justice and freedom, and a peaceful future for ALL — not just for those who can afford to hide inside their gated mansions.

  8. rmboyter March 15th, 2007 9:11 am

    This movie must have been written by Steven King! The Aliens from the monster lizard planet, have taken over! Earthlings unite, fight for your freedom, or you will be eaten by Goverment, GOP (Greedy Obnoxious Pigs) Neo Cons, Corrupt Greedy Scoundrels, who Support this thing called GREED. BUSH CHENEY

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  10. Essie March 15th, 2007 12:11 pm

    The hands of the American people are already smeared with the blood of thousands upon thousands of innocent human beings. It is THEIR government that has done and is doing the killing. It is THEIR dollars that fuel THEIR killing machines. It is in THEIR all fifty states that produce lethal weapons. How can they possibly plea ignorance? Perhaps they may claim that THEIR government fooled them all. Well, brother, if you are that gullible, then you deserve the government you got; why complain? But remember, you are still an accomplice. History and people, including you, will always remember that it was the Americans who did it. Just like history and people remember that it was the Germans who were responsible for WWII war crimes, both good and bad Germans.

  11. voxclamantis March 15th, 2007 1:39 pm

    Good question, Essie. Are Americans (the whole collective batch of us) bad people because our country is turning into a blight on the planet? Or are we (you and I and Rebecca) good people living in a bad country at a bad time? I don’t know the answer to that. I think we all share a national responsibility for what happens to people when our boys and girls, armed with lethal weapons, arrive on their shores. And yet I too marched and wrote and gave money and painted signs and banners and sent angry letters to the newspaper and hollered bloody murder from day one. Short of actually trying to track down George Bush and drive a stake through his black heart (in the spirit of peace), what more was I supposed to do? There just weren’t enough of us. Only 20% of Americans are pacifists. Not enough.

    I prefer to speak of shared failure (since expressions of righteousness and pride seem inappropriate these days), as compelling as it is to blame the dumb people and the vicious people and the morally dead people for the consequences that will fall upon all of us. Certainly it isn’t George Bush’s fault that his nature is what it is. There is a George Bush under every rock in Texas. It is we voters who made him President. (Well, almost half of us is still too many.)

    But I sleep ok, and so should Rebecca. We could have done more and gotten ourselves arrested, but it wouldn’t have changed a thing. We did our best and it wasn’t enough. Most of the world knows that there were good Americans who did not stand quietly by, and I am grateful today to find myself among them.

  12. GARBOTOO March 15th, 2007 2:33 pm

    The problem with the USA is the population is trained from birth to RESPECT authority. How many times in ones life have we had buricratic authority affect out lives and had no where to turn with a system that’s set up so individuals find it too inconvenint to register a complaint and that’s only on the micro level.
    How in the hell can an individual deal with it at the macro level especially when congress has been bought and sold by the very people that benefit by having the corrupt system that we have.
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  13. Rich22 March 15th, 2007 10:30 pm

    Don’t discount these people as being unintelligent, just because you don’t agree with them. Beside an education of strategy, they have access to media and money most people don’t. Look at what has come out of their washing; just what any intelligent person with a different view would expect: corruption, brutality, greed, torture, nationalism, … Don’t let them think they have tired you out; re-energize when you can, and drive these people back to hell. Someone in our government is doing the job of letting us know of our victories; keep up the good work! Democracy works.

  14. lpenek March 16th, 2007 3:19 am

    The answer, Voxclamantis, is that we’re good people living in a bad country, just like good Brits living in England during any of her atrocities, just like good Belgians, during the Congo massacres, …etc. you know the littany. Don’t let dingbats like Essie rattle your cage.
    Did _I_ do enough? Hell no, I should have been the Van Helsing driving that spike. But at least I was never fooled. Not when Boy George tried to look strong after 9/11, not when Powell tried to look convincing at the UN (I just wanted to reach thru the screen and slap that man, SLAP HIM…) I could see the whole carnage like a bad premonition. That has to count for something, even if it isn’t what ‘Becca did; hell, she’s gold-plated.

  15. Bill from Saginaw March 16th, 2007 7:00 pm

    I’ve marched and vigiled and written op-ed letters and posts, hassled my elected representatives, and been in more than a few nasty shouting matches with some pro-Bush, pro-war Neanderthals. Could I have done more? Sure. Will I do more? You bet.

    The great tragic dynamic is how the American electorate has polarized. A solid third of the citizenry firmly view Little George and Dick Cheney as very impeachable war criminals. About a quarter of the people clustered at the other end of the political spectrum idolize Bush as a warrior for Christ and a fearless (if sometimes mistakenly advised) well meaning leader cast in the mold of Winston Churchill.

    In between these extremes is of course where the action is: among the swing voting moderates, the apolitical, the confused, the trivial, the bored, the disheartened, the cynical, the lazy, the alienated, and the ever present angry huddled masses, yearning to breathe free.

    The bulk of this great middle swath of the American public bought into the pre-invasion hype and jingoism later chronicled for all to see in the Downing Street memos. But at the time, they cheered the troops on, with eyes glued steadfast to the TV screen from shock & awe through Mission Accomplished. It truly seemed a cakewalk.

    Bush’s popularity went through the roof. With the neo-con evangelical wing of the GOP in firm control of both houses of the Congress, Bush/Cheney spent this political capital with true avengence to promulgate class warfare, torture and an unprecedented trashing of the Bill of Rights. The loyal opposition largely cowered, fearing to be labeled obstructionist.

    But the passage of time and the flow of events over the last four years have changed the whole domestic landscape. That great center bloc has shifted away from George Bush and his pipe dreams of Pax Americana in the Middle East. In the November 2006 election, enough of those middle ground Americans voted with the Democrats to take back the Congress, leaving Bush/Cheney isolated and defiant, now supported only by an ever eroding, ever dangerous right wing base hanging doggedly on to their dwindling executive powers.

    So what more as an American can I do as the era of George Bush draws to a close, assuming (as we always must) that there won’t be another 9/11 like terrorist attack tommorow? Three things, in my opinion.

    First, don’t let Bush/Cheney think they can bomb Iran or invade Syria without being impeached. It is the constitutional duty of the new Congress to be obstructionist to the hilt on this issue, so that no more harm can be done by military escalation, no more geographical spread of the bloodletting beyond the borders of Iraq.

    Second, do not say “I told you so.” Welcome back to the mainstream those who were duped by the propaganda, or who just went with the crowd because it was too painful to resist. All that should be insisted upon is that those folks unambiguously commit today to ending the occupation of Iraq completely and as quickly as possible. How you rationalize, excuse, or explain this transformation away is entirely up to you, no questions asked, no apologies needed, no ideological orthodoxy even urged.

    Third, let us take to heart the lessons of both the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, and not let the same mistakes be made again.

    For starters, an honest history of both these wars (and perhaps even a candid Howard Zinn model treatment of war and imperial expansion in US history) must be included into the public education civics texts and taught, as a substitute for the pop culture myths about American militarism that are so prevalent and so easily manipulated into fear mongering propaganda by the demagogues inevitably in our midst.

    And to finish up, let’s return to the rule of law.

    There’s some criminal prosecutions very much in order here, and nobody’s even begun to assemble an audit trail of the billions misspent, embezzled and stolen in the Iraq fiasco.

    Think about it. Only two decision makers were ever actually held personally accountable on their personal job resumes for the 2-3 million Asian deaths caused by America’s hideous war in Vietnam: Lyndon Johnson and Lt. William Calley.

    LBJ was forced in humiliation to withdraw from seeking his own party’s nomination for a second term. Lt. Calley was court martialed and sentenced to some imprisonment for his role in the Mai Lai massacre.

    Everybody else - McNamara, Nixon, Kissinger, Laird, Westmoreland, etc. - all took the money and ran, spirited off into the sunset of honorable retirement, destined to contemplate sweet investment opportunities and revisionist memoirs about their lives of public service. Small wonder when a different gang of clowns and hustlers took over the Pentagon thirty years later, they figured they could get away with murder too.

    Should those who “fixed the intelligence around the policy”, the architects of the torture gulag, the wiretappers, liars, commercial con men, procurement profiteers and black ops boys all be entitled to the same sort of informal amnesty bestowed upon those who foisted the first monstrous and wholly unnecessary military catastrophe, the one in Indochina?

    Nope. Not this time. Not in my name.

    If you really want to do something more as a “good American” in a time of great peril and despair, I say let’s stop the war and let bygones be bygones, at least until we take the toys away from the boys. And then we enforce the rule of law, letting the chips fall where they may

  16. lpenek March 17th, 2007 2:34 am

    Bill,
    Great post, brilliant summary and good advice. You should be writing for…Common Dreams!, not just blogging.
    What an idea — a honest, balanced, warts-included history for children in grade school. But for a lot of authoritarians, that’s just not what children are for — they’re for indoctrination, the more brazenly the better, the more mindlessly the better. Is it any wonder we produce our share of W’s? I remember my school texts; they were atrocious!!! Just a string of war victories, MacArthur walking onto beaches, Patton’s driving over people, Revere with his horse and lantern, etc.
    I’d love to let bygones be bygones, but half of Americans, the Tom Lehay Americans, think that disaster will result from “cutting and running” and that “victory” is our only safe route to the future. Of course the same people think that a nuclear blast in the middle east will herald the 2nd coming. In short, Bill, we’re screwed. :-) No, I don’t really believe that, but sometimes…

  17. machi March 19th, 2007 12:29 am

    Dear USAlanders, keep pushing, keep working against the war! And against the long slide towards facism, by the way. Here in Chile it took time and tears, but we ended the Pinochet’s dictature, and be sure that sometimes the enemy looked almighty. But the enemy looks bigger only when I’m on my knees.
    The rest of humanity can do his best, but the decisive victory can only be won there, at the very heart of the Empire.
    Un abrazo solidario

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